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It seems this isn't a kid, but a "little person".

It's still disturbing but not as much as if it were a 10 year old.

... only when no reciprocity is demanded. It's only when you start letting your girl get away with small things that entitlement comes into play.

Entitlement doesn't only manifest itself in relationship negotiations. It starts out long before, when the 6 who is sitting at the bar throws off the attitude of an 8.

What I'm getting most from Advocatus is the mental attitude one should have when dealing with women - which is really the same one you would have with your guy friends. You wouldn't put with shit from then, so why do it for women?

Due to the current mating market economy men start out with an inherent disadvantage. This automatically creates scarcity. It's hard to walk past an e-coli infested cesspool when you're in the desert. Most men are stuck filtering putrid water just to get themselves through.

But, it's still interesting to see the difference between whore and housewife with regards to direct vs indirect methods of payment. I remember on more than one occasion when I dated the stripper she would get REALLY excited to get nasty if I was throwing some singles her way (I did it a couple times for kicks). It was like ... gf prostitution. Speaking of which, I may need to try that on the next girl that gives me LMR ("let's play the stripper game ... I got some singles, I'll even let you keep them"). Sure it's a game, and I wouldn't drop more than $10, but I wonder what kind of effect that would have on a girl.

That could probably go either way and I would think it would be difficult to guess as to which way a particular woman would react. Most would probably get into it but I'll bet that more than a few would be outright offended, especially the more uptight ones.

For years I wondered whether or not I had imagined this, but I recall my first real g/f leaving money on my nightstand a few times. It was bizarre but I didn't think a whole lot of it at the time. I believe she denied it when I asked her about it years later.

[Instead appreciation is replaced with entitlement.]

Of the 40+ women I've nailed in my time I think there were maybe 5 - 6 who were ready to bang me on my own terms, unprompted. The rest almost always needed some coaching of some kind. Not pleading or negotiating, but most needed at least some directing on my part. Nothing is more frustrating to me than to have had to go through the effort of Gaming some HB 8.5+ over the course of a night or two only to have her be this complete incompetent in bed. All of that effort to get to find out the girl has self-conscious sexual hang ups?

I have only had great sex with 2 or maybe 3 girls. The rest range from the 18 year old who was clueless to a couple of 20-30 somethings who thought they were the shit but were only mediocre. So I feel your pain.

This is part of the "what are women really bringing to the table these days" discussion. The best sex I have had was with women who I had an emotional bond with. There was no such thing as no and they were willing and eager to please in many ways. Incidentally, these were the women who had the lowest partner count. I was the 2nd guy for one of them and the 3rd for the other. More cocks=less ability to bond=less incentive to please?

Is the familiarity that makes women take their LTRs for granted or is it the direct exchange of funds for implied services rendered?

That is part of it, but the other part is that for women, sex is much more utilitarian than it is for men. It is as much a means to securing a commitment as it is to securing pleasure. For them it is a tool of manipulation.

It's sad that whores seem to be better than housewives in making the attempt to appreciate those sacrifices. One would think it would be the LTR GF / housewives, with their greater investment on their Man's part who'd be more keenly aware of this and do everything in their power to keep him from considering direct prostitution.

Instead appreciation is replaced with entitlement.

Which is why I will never again commit to an American woman.

This is what I've been saying. These women today don't want to be feminine. That's "weak". So instead of supporting men who are the ones who are capable of building TRUE value (remember, the hottest "10" has only a fraction of the mating value of a top tier male) and deriving their value from their attachment to said male, they would rather compete with men directly for resources.

That's why this country is fucked.

[not]

So what do they get out of this, and what do you get out of it? If not an explicit lay, then what? What are you using photos for? Are you going to be an agent of sorts? It's a sound idea, don't get me wrong, and one I'm considering doing myself after I switch careers and have the free time to do it. But you still have to figure out what you're getting for your time and if it's worth it. Are you making money off this somehow? Are you building a solid social circle that can be capitalized on in a quantifiable way? What are these chicks thinking? Is it just TF shoots and you give them photos and that's that? Or are you doing this 100% as a hobby and for fun first and foremost, with profit of some sort as an afterthought?

Well. the only reason I bought a $750 camera in the first place was because I have a prosumer Sony 3ccd video camera that is sitting in a case collecting dust. I have to get video for my business, but I can use my iPhone 4 for quick, candid stuff, and the dSLR shoots amazing HD video if I need pro grade stuff. The big Sony is just too bulky, dealing with tapes is a pain, etc. Gonna sell the Sony and a Panasonic 3 chip I have and still have money left over after I bought the Nikon.

I have a really nice Samsung point-and-shoot as well, but the other reason for buying the Nikon is to allow me to get professional grade shots of my product line and of ME. I have a product line I created and I'm working on a series of informational videos. In a way I'm my own brand, so I need good professional shots for my website, video covers and such.

Anyway, what am I getting out of it? At this point I'm getting experience behind the camera. If I luck out and get some good shots along the way I know my way around photoshop well enough to touch them up fairly quickly.

What are the girls getting out of it? Pictures for their portfolios. I'm meeting another one on Sunday who has never taken a pro shot in her life so she is willing to bear with me while I get some practice.

I am not looking to hit on these girls. The reason why I am posting this here is because I know that if you are a heterosexual male with decent value the inevitable result of being in contact with young attractive women is that you will find yourself with some new "friends" who can prove to be very valuable socially, even if you aren't banging them. It's very interesting to me how "game" applies not only to trying to get women into bed, but also getting people to comply with you in other areas of life. This is no exception. 

As for becoming an agent.....that's probably even better than being a photographer from a social standpoint, but that's just waaaay too much work. This is a very part time thing for me.

Instead appreciation is replaced with entitlement.

... only when no reciprocity is demanded. It's only when you start letting your girl get away with small things that entitlement comes into play. "If I can get him to take me out without blowing him, why should I blow him?"

What I'm getting most from Advocatus is the mental attitude one should have when dealing with women - which is really the same one you would have with your guy friends. You wouldn't put with shit from then, so why do it for women?

But, it's still interesting to see the difference between whore and housewife with regards to direct vs indirect methods of payment. I remember on more than one occasion when I dated the stripper she would get REALLY excited to get nasty if I was throwing some singles her way (I did it a couple times for kicks). It was like ... gf prostitution. Speaking of which, I may need to try that on the next girl that gives me LMR ("let's play the stripper game ... I got some singles, I'll even let you keep them"). Sure it's a game, and I wouldn't drop more than $10, but I wonder what kind of effect that would have on a girl.

Interesting to see Rollo advocating prostitution

In all honesty I've never really given it much consideration. I lived in Lake Tahoe and Reno for over 12 years of my life and had every opportunity to partake of legal prostitution in Nevada on any number of occasions. I just never considered it. I was banging a stripper in Tahoe on a semi-regular basis who had friends "in the business" too, but I just never thought of it as a viable option. That's how foreign the idea was to me. I've always been able to hook up fairly predictably so it never made any sense to "pay for it" even though I was by default.

What got me about Advocatus' take is the having sex on your terms principle. Of the 40+ women I've nailed in my time I think there were maybe 5 - 6 who were ready to bang me on my own terms, unprompted. The rest almost always needed some coaching of some kind. Not pleading or negotiating, but most needed at least some directing on my part. Nothing is more frustrating to me than to have had to go through the effort of Gaming some HB 8.5+ over the course of a night or two only to have her be this complete incompetent in bed. All of that effort to get to find out the girl has self-conscious sexual hang ups? It got me thinking back to when I used to live in L.A. and the women I spent all kinds of mental effort to get into their pants. In hindsight, precious few of them had the energy I required in bed without my prompting them. Precious few went the extra mile to specifically please me on their own accord. Even the fuckbuddies who'd climb into my bedroom window to bang me before I left to school in the morning still needed to be told to wear lingerie occasionally.

So is that a service? Is that part of an experience for having had to pay for the encounter? A lot of the ads I see on these site start off with a woman explaining how she'll "treat you like a King" or how "you deserve the full treatment after a hard work week". I wonder how many guy's Quality Women LTR / Wives would plan, much less express, anything remotely similar? Is the familiarity that makes women take their LTRs for granted or is it the direct exchange of funds for implied services rendered?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for prostitution. In my line of work I have any number of opportunities to cheat in a given month without paying for it and I still don't consider it. What I'm trying to distill is the differences between the quality of direct prostitution vs. LTR, monogamous indirect prostitution. As I've always said, sex will ALWAYS cost men something, the question is what's the best deal? What do I get for my investment? I think it might do most women some good to consider what the appeal of direct prostitution is for men in light of their attitudes toward the guy they've been with for 10+ years. The difference between a whore and a housewife is the housewife presumes she's entitled to her husband's provisioning, regardless of respect or appreciation. Again, as I've always stated, women will never fully appreciate the sacrifices a Man makes in abandoning his sexual imperatives to accommodate her own. It's sad that whores seem to be better than housewives in making the attempt to appreciate those sacrifices. One would think it would be the LTR GF / housewives, with their greater investment on their Man's part who'd be more keenly aware of this and do everything in their power to keep him from considering direct prostitution.

Instead appreciation is replaced with entitlement.

So what do they get out of this, and what do you get out of it? If not an explicit lay, then what? What are you using photos for? Are you going to be an agent of sorts? It's a sound idea, don't get me wrong, and one I'm considering doing myself after I switch careers and have the free time to do it. But you still have to figure out what you're getting for your time and if it's worth it. Are you making money off this somehow? Are you building a solid social circle that can be capitalized on in a quantifiable way? What are these chicks thinking? Is it just TF shoots and you give them photos and that's that? Or are you doing this 100% as a hobby and for fun first and foremost, with profit of some sort as an afterthought?

I happened to stumble across this video.
http://tv.msn.com/video/tv/?g=0e3f01cc-4ad9-49ea-9cf0-2617c7cc078e&from=en-us_msnhp&gt1=42007

I thought people could only be lied to so many times until the liars makes themselves look like total jackasses. Maybe I expect too much out of people. Listen to the idiot at 1:51. It all gets even more retarded after that. Luckily for me I'm not to big on television.

"Women can be anything they want to be"

"Strong"

"Independent"

"Women using their skill and toughness and negotiation"

"It doesn't mean that women are being represented in any sort of realistic way"

TV execs shoving programming down women's throats because it's cheaper to make? Yea right, dumbass. Women eat that shit up. Catty drama is chick crack. There might be an audience for badass kung-fu bitches, but there will always be a market for celebrity gossip and brainless trash tv, much of it consumed by women.

The women in this country are truly worthless.

I happened to stumble across this video.
http://tv.msn.com/video/tv/?g=0e3f01cc-4ad9-49ea-9cf0-2617c7cc078e&from=en-us_msnhp&gt1=42007

I thought people could only be lied to so many times until the liars makes themselves look like total jackasses. Maybe I expect too much out of people. Listen to the idiot at 1:51. It all gets even more retarded after that. Luckily for me I'm not to big on television.

the whole video was sickening with "oh women are independent and strong and men should recognise that!" - fuck that its all a fucking fantasy, just dangle a spider in front of their faces and see how strong and brave those women really are. Now go back to the kitchen where its safe and make me a sandwich woman!

[ALL HAIL THE KING!]

Holy shit.

Earlier today I got another hit from another single mommy who wants to get pics of her and her baby who is "signed". Good lord.

Just got another one a few minutes ago. Looks like a college girl. Another cute 6 that could be a 7 with the right touch? I guess this is the caliber of chicks you get when you are just starting out. Here's her email-

Hey I saw your ad on craigslist and I'd be interested in modeling for you because I need to expand my portfolio. I'm submitting you my head shots. I don't do nude, but will do lingerie, as long as it has taste and isn't to revealing, I also do casual, glamour, music videos, and swim suits. My information is on the comp card.

Guarantee most of these chicks WILL do nude if they trust the photographer. Music videos? In your dreams babe. You're cute and young but you don't have what it takes to make the next P-Diddy video.

The leggy black chick called me today. Gonna meet her for a few minutes on Thursday. The first one that emailed me returned my email and said she would call me today but didn't.

I have a feeling these chicks would be SUPER easy to game if I wanted to go that route.

I actually crafted my ad with DHV in mind. I'm a "local businessman" who has experience in front of the camera and behind the scenes writing, directing, and producing (all true, BTW) but now I'm interested in building a still photography portfolio. Of course, I am busy with my business dealings, so "serious inquiries only".

A couple of years ago I did a show where I got hooked up with a modeling agency (a waitress who moonlights as an agent, but she was still a goldmine). It was an enlightening experience. She put out a casting call and brought 6 or 8 girls to my store, ready and willing to work for $50 each.

This was a surreal experience. The girls were all attractive, ranging from 7's to strong 8's. The model agent was there and made all of them introduce themselves to me in front of the group. ALL HAIL THE KING! At least that's what it felt like.

You could cut the competition anxiety tension with a knife. One girl in particular set her laser beams on me. The hottest one of the bunch. Her pic is on my car, haha.

Anyway, the tension was palpable. With a whole $50 on the line these chicks were competing for my attention. Ended up the really hot one was the first to show up for the show. She asked me if I wanted to walk around with her and check out the show before the rest of the girls arrived. We walked around for awhile. The whole night she was there I kept catching her looking my way and smiling. She had another gig later that night and invited me to stop by after the show. I was fucking beat tired so I declined, but to this day I kick myself in the ass for not going just to see what might have happened. She moved to NYC a couple of months later.

I'm too busy to mess with anything crazy right now, but when I get some free time and a little more experience with the camera I'm going to set up another situation where I have several women competing for my time. Competition anxiety brought on by a high value male who has the power to "decide a woman's destiny" is a very powerful thing. I've seen it firsthand.

Can't wait to get some free time that will allow me to combine my new hobby with my knowledge of female psychology. Once you understand how a woman's mind works they become puppets on a string.